Been having some fun but honestly....Frustrated :(

My Experience with the Ender3V3KE

I am new to the world of 3d printing and I purchased this KE printer on a pretty good deal over the 4th of July holiday. But I have to say it has not really been a pleasant experience and I do have until Aug 7th to return the whole shebang and call it good before I loose any more money or expend any more frustration.

It was a refurbish unit a that is fine purchased lots of items refurbished. I have a Brother MFC laser printer I purchased over 10 years ago and it’s still working great. But this printer has been a challenge right out of the box.

First things first, the gantry upright screws are woefully too short to begin with at 3mm x 14mm, but since this unit had previously been assembled the threads were already comprised and I replaced with 3 x 20mm and will probably still yet go to 25mm.

Several of the brass pem nuts were partially pulled out above the plastic, I was able to push this back down, but once these are compromised they really do not have any holding strength.

Also the nozzle was completely clogged from the previous user so I used the ‘spare’ included in the kit.

Basically someone returned this printer, Creality opened the box, said looks ok and tossed in a new hardware and tool kit and taped it back up and sent it out.

Ok so I get it up and running and get the firmware update and I print a few things, some nicer then others, I open up and try a few different filaments, all factory Creality PLA so I can expect the best experience.

Then after about say maybe 10 small prints, cubes, cones, cups, heart, figurine, etc I start having issues. The nozzle starts dragging across the bed, hot plastic forces up out the top of the nozzle, start getting bubbles and strings on everything. Also starting to get error messages on the printer screen. WTH?
So what the hell has happened here?

I start by using a pick to pull loose the glue holding the connectors before carefully disconnecting and start pulling things apart to inspect things, I find a wire has come loose or was never fully seated in one of the CR Touch connectors.

So I send an explanation and proof of purchase to our good friends at Creality and without question they are sending me a new wire harness for the CR Touch sensor, new hot end assembly, new .04 brass nozzle and a new build plate. Sweet, thanks! The representative also asks me to be patient, that’s fine I appreciate the quick reply and no questions asked hook up. I assume this is coming from China and will take a few weeks, no biggie.

I had included my home address to ship to since I no longer have access to the address I originally had the printer shipped to (old job). So in like 2 days I get a email from DHL that the package is on its way and due to be delivered in like a day to the original shipping address…Ugh! No biggie, I am able to append the address and it will cause a one day delay, again no biggie as I was expecting weeks.

Here I would like to give a huge thanks to Creality for their quick service and no questions asked warranty replacement parts. Thank You :smile_cat:

I had already purchased a replacement hot end so I could get the printer back up and running, that arrived today. Also a upgraded Micro-Swiss heatsink which is pretty nice over the original unit.

In the meantime when I was taking apart the hot end assembly and unplugging the extruder, the wire connector for the extruder breaks apart in my hand, Faak!

Ok no biggie, I do some research online and from prior experience in small form factor electronics and some measurements I determine the connector to be a JST ZH connector so I jump on Digikey and figure I am going to be modding this thing and plugging things in and out and will most likely run into this again.

So I order 100 connectors and 25 each of 2, 3, 4, and 5 pin housings, that only added up to about $7 and I kind of need these parts quickly so I opt for the 2 day priority shipping for $12 so after tax there’s another $20 out of pocket, no biggie.

Tonight I start looking real close at the connectors again, despite taking my time before ordering and I now realize the connectors are Molex Pico Blade and are not cross compatible with the JST ZH connectors, Great, more delays, more money.
Made that order and the original Molex pico blade connectors are significantly more expensive than the JST ZH connectors. I have a sneaking suspicion that the ones used on the printer are probably homeland clones and not the original oem parts.

I wanted to dip my feet into the water and see what it was all about, and well now I know. I am already frustrated on the hobby and not even 1 month into it… :roll_eyes:

Alright, thanks for letting me vent, we all know these are entry level machines and we should be prepared to invest some sweat equity into the project. I will post up information on how to make the wire end repairs with part numbers as I think that will be beneficial to the community.





I’m looking to relocate the filament runout sensor on a Ender-3 V3 Plus and will need to extend the wires to move it so I’m interested in what these connectors are called…
Since you are dealing with flakey wire connectors and know the different names I was wondering what this one is called.
I need to order an extension with male / female ends.

Not sure if they are the same on the KE.

Sorry picture is rough…

I don’t know the size of that connector but it is a JST connector, its 2 pin mini micro on the KE fans -=linky=- but there is also JST-XH and PH plus others, need to measure pin pitch I think.

For fun, just search Amazon for Electronic Connectors and be amazed…

Thank you sir. I found some small JST 3 pins I’ll get on the A store…

Using them to relocate the filament sensor on my Ender-3 V3 and new Ender-3 V3 PLUS. The wires on the machines are not color coded so just have to match them up right… :upside_down_face:

Oh Boy are you in for a surprise :joy:

There is no such thing as a ‘Micro’ JST, Now they do make a 1.25mm pitch known as the JST GH Series, but this is not what you want.

Now you do in fact want JST connectors, but had you taken careful measurement of the pin spacing on your filament runout sensor you would have measured .100".
.100x25.4 is 2.54mm, closest approximation in a JST connector is going to be…

JST XH Series connectors with a 2.5mm pitch.

There are several JST ‘Styles’:

JST GH 1.25mm pin pitch
JST ZH 1.5mm pin pitch
JST PH 2.0mm pin pitch
JST XH 2.5mm pin pitch (The ones you seek)

And many more variations that you can find in the link below.

Common JST Connector Types

Try again :smile_cat:

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That link you provided is wrong, there is no 1.25 JST connectors in the KE. Trust me on this. If you look carefully the small pitch connectors on the KE and I assume other Creality products as well you will see they are a blade style male connector and if you measure VERY carefully you will see that the center to center pin spacing is .0495" (.0495x25.4=1.25mm). JST connectors are square pins, not blade style.

The fan connector is the same connector albeit 4 pin for the extruder motor, the one connection that broke that I have had to spend nearly $40 on just to get some darn connectors for.

So tonight I was able to happily verify that on the second parts order I did in fact order the correct connectors and they are Molex PicoBlade series connectors. I have the factory blue print of the Extruder stepper motor that specs out the connector.

Here is a link to the actual Molex PicoBlade specs and part numbers:
Molex PicoBlade Datasheet

The 2 pin housing number is 51021-0200
The 3 pin housing number is 51021-0300
The 4 pin housing number is 51021-0400
The 5 pin housing number is 51021-0500

The female connector terminal is 50079-8100 for 26-28 AWG

Now why some engineers thought it would be a good idea to mix and match Molex and JST connectors in the same system is beyond me :man_shrugging:

Here is the factory engineering blue print for the extruder motor, look carefully and you will see the Molex part numbers for both the connector and the housing.

Definitely a surprise. Looks like it’s not going to be as simple as I thought… Thank you so much for that link.

Now I have to learn more stuff… :cry:

So the “Pitch” is the distance between each pin connector…??

Yes in much the same as the screw thread pitch is the distance between 2 threads. I used one of the 2 pin JST connectors on the fan on my KE and it works fine. Mix of connections?

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Got it. Thank You… I just ordered the right ones this time…

Oh well it doesn’t hurt to have extra parts…

What I mean by mix of connections is that some connections in the printer are JST and others are Molex. If you look at the small Molex male pins on the board you will see they are ‘Blade’ style whereas the JST connectors use ‘pin’ style male connectors.

I am happy to report that my printer is back up and running after replacing my busted Molex PicoBlade connector on the extruder. Ran through the Z-offset and ABL procedure and ran the ‘benchy’ straight out off the printer.

Picture comparing apples to apples… Here you can see the ‘blade’ or slot style opening on the connector.

Just solder some wires to it and make your own connector! You’re out of warranty anyways, right?
A chunk of electrical tape, and you’re in business!

I would return it and purchase the new Endur 3V3. I like you and moretty new to this stuff, but I have been designing in Shaper Three D and printing like a mad man. This little 220x220x220 machine prints flawlessly. Self leveling, no jamming, no erros, I simply love it!

Try Embrace Maker for the extension harness. I purchased the filament stand for my 3v3 plus and it came with the screws and extension wire to relocate the runout sensor to the top.

Thanks for sharing, but, it sounds like buying a Refurb caused a number of the problems. My 30 day experience with a new KE has been almost perfect. I found the included PEI sheet didn’t stick objects well enough. A $15. replacement has solved that issue completely.

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